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700 Dodo
2/2/2004 5:14:46 AM

SPAT on Pat. Advocates will be stoned

Robertson Advocates Stoning for UFO Enthusiasts


In a recent pronouncement, television evangelist and Christian Coalition president Pat Robertson advocated death by stoning for UFO enthusiasts.

Freedom Writer magazine disclosed Robertson's statement in its July/August issue. Freedom Writer is published by the Institute for First Amendment Studies, a group that monitors the right.

Robertson used the news of the July 4th Mars landing to promote his extreme beliefs. A segment on the July 8, 1997 broadcast of The 700 Club featured news of the Mars Pathfinder mission. Employing the historical event as a starting point, the program delved into the possibility of the existence of UFOs and space aliens.

While Robertson viewed the space program with suspicion, on a more serious note, he launched into a diatribe against those who entertain the existence of space aliens and UFOs. In a rambling discourse, he said that if such things exist, they are simply demons trying to lead people away from Christ. According to Robertson, the threat is so serious that people who believe in space aliens should be put to death by stoning -- according to "God's word."

"The Bible says the Earth belongs to man, but the heavens belong to the Lord," Robertson said. "He has given us the Earth. He also warned, way back when Moses was writing down not only what is the Ten Commandments, but Deuteronomy, which is almost the Second Law.

"Here is what he said to the children of Israel about this whole matter:

"'If there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord your God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone and served other gods and worshipped them, either the sun or moon or any of the hosts of heaven which I have not commanded you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently. And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and stone to death that man or woman with stones.' (Deuteronomy 17:2-5, NKJV)

"Now, that's what Moses said to the children of Israel about those who worship the sun and the moon and the hosts of heaven, because these things, at best, are lifeless nothings, or, if they are intelligent, they're demonic. And, yes, there is a host of heaven. There are angels and there are fallen angels. There is no question about it.

"Can a demon appear as a slanty-eyed, funny-looking creature? Of course he can, or it can. Of course they can deceive people. And if they can lead somebody away from the true God, or away from Jesus Christ, anyway it happens, it doesn't matter, you will lose your salvation. It doesn't matter how they get you. The question is, did they get you, and under what guise?

"This is man in rebellion against God, who refuses to take God's Law. And God says, 'My covenant says you won't do this. And if I find anybody in Israel,'-- "which is his pure nation" -- 'If I find anybody in Israel that's doing this sort of thing, then I want you to take him out and dispose of him.

"It's a clear violation of God's word."


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Robert L. Sharp
2/2/2004 7:20:11 AM

Is this Rick?
Robert

DocMoriarty
2/2/2004 9:57:19 AM

That Robertson is a tad naive and simple minded, isn't he ? If he would read the bible, i mean read as in understand what he is reading, not read as in lining up characters to funny pictograms, then even he might recognize that the god in the old testament is:

A CRIMINAL

committing millionfold murder (What about the Egpytians ? What about the former inhabitants of the "promised land" ? What about the flood ?), disrespecting consciousness, committing crime against the first cosmic ethical rule, ... and fears competition.

And simple minded folks like this Robertson are his tools. Wonder whether he can spell or whether he recognizes holding a book upside down. (look at this, he would be in good companionship http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushbookupsidedown.htm )

Does anyone understand why i don't like human religions ? Gives stupid people good reasons to behave stupid.

Just my opinion.

Best Regards
Doc


Robert L. Sharp
2/2/2004 11:31:27 AM

Doc:
Good picture of the pres. upside down book, and the caption:
IS our children learning? Wow!
Robert

Rick Sobie
2/2/2004 4:55:08 PM

That is quite funny.

I ahd heard of that picture but I hadn't seen it. Make Dan Quayle look like a genius some days I suppose. One of lifes little embarassing moments. Have you heard Robin
Williams (Live on Broadway I think) do his bit about the time the pres almost died
from a pretzel? That was priceless.

But about Pat Robertson. Yes he is certainly a piece of work that man.

Controlling his flock, to keep them under his wing. Using threats of hell fire and
damnation, and stoning. He is probably worried he might be out of a job soon or something. Anyway, I am looking into how this mess all got started.

I think it was Enki, who met with Abraham Isaac and Jacob and disobeyed
the Prime Directive and that led to what you see today, which is a real frickin
mess. In a normal situation, you would not have Pat Robertsons on the same
planet as a native African pigmy, and you certainly would not have so
many starving people liing in such horrible conditions all over the world,
while people like Pat ride around in CAdillacs preachin' the good word on
Sundee.

He probably gave them some technology, they used it to scare the carp
out of people and to gain power over others and they have not let
that power go ever since. They are not compassionate and the are
in no way mature enough as a race - mankind in general - to even
have electricity at this point, let alone nuclear capability.

So, in the process of trying to correct that error, things have gotten
more weird, to the point, where it will never be corrected short of
divine intervention on a very large and probably obvious scale.

So if Enki gave them the arc of the welder, and if you touched it,
God did this and that, you see my point.



Rick Sobie
2/2/2004 5:26:55 PM

If you are interested, you can look at

www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm

and near the bottom of the page you will get some idea regarding the problem.

You see you cannot just protest, and clean up the environment. You cannot
just protest or vote and expect to change the world when it is embroiled
in ideas and notions that are not even close to reality. People know what
truth is, yet you very rarely see it. This world demands that people lie
in order to get by in this world. The level of injustice, is unbelieveable.

So the planet is in danger, and it has been for the last 100 or so years.

Injustice will not be corrected when money, simple lucre, that root of all evil,
is the controlling factor that governs men's lives.

You are not going to correct the problems, that threaten this world,
without removing completely, the monetary system. And to do that,
you would need a totalitarian regime, which again, is grounds for
planetary anhilation. So I am begining to think that most people are just
at the point where they feel that the situation is hopeless, and so they sit
and wait for the saviour.

Someone to make them obey? Someone to make them be nice people?
Or someone to make things more fair? Or to make it more safe?

I don't know, but it seems to me, they do not understand the creator at all.

Look at a tree. It can do what ever it wants, within its abilities.

A tree has no sin and is incapable of sin. The same can be said for any living thing,
except people use sin, as a means to have control over others in a world,
where some have gotten ahold of power, and others have Jack squat.

In the creators eyes, only the strong survive, yet below him are the Gods,
and they have developed civbilization and they go around trying to improve the
lot of man and to reduce the suffering and all that. They have rules which they
live by and all civilization has rules, yet when you look at the earth, it is
the weirdest combination of Heinz 57 varieties that totally defies logic
and common sense. I have no idea what the future will hold, but I assume
mankind will be left to fend for themselves and the strong will survive,
just like some animals live and some animals die.

It is absolutely impossible to break any law that the creator makes..

He does not make laws that can be broken. Plain and simple.

What you see are man made laws and civilized ideas put forth by the Gods.

And for the most part lately, it appears as if the rule book has been tossed
out the window, and I don't know what will become of it, but obviously
according to computer projections of 2,000 years ago, they figured mankind
would destroy themselves in some sort of holocaust. Yet man has been
resourceful enough, and had enough assistance, to survive this long,
so who knows, he might make it. (As long as the creator takes enough
interest in this planet to continue to intervene as he has) Without his intervention
mankind would be not living like as they do today. But he works in myserious ways.

SERVANT SIRAEL
2/3/2004 10:50:41 PM

Tell Mr. Robertson that I am submitting myself willfully to this challenge. I am a defender and strong UFO believer.

He must make sure however that HE CASTS THE FIRST STONE to this servant.

THIS IS MY CHALLENGE! PAT, MAKE GOOD OF YOUR STATEMENT. STONE ME TO DEATH!

DocMoriarty
2/3/2004 11:24:18 PM

Rick:

[[You are not going to correct the problems, that threaten this world,
without removing completely, the monetary system. And to do that,
you would need a totalitarian regime, which again, is grounds for
planetary anhilation. So I am begining to think that most people are just
at the point where they feel that the situation is hopeless, and so they sit
and wait for the saviour. ]]

Here i disagree somewhat. I think the main problem is, that man think they are intelligent but in fact they are best case somewhat semi intelligent and yet pretty lazy using higher levels of their brain.

The best way to solve our problems would be, if all mankind would be intelligent and educated enough to lead self determined ethical lifes (ethical not as in following some human made religion but the source itself). You don't need then anyone to tell you whats wrong and whats right, like these Robertson gimps. Enki has to return and to finish his genetic engineering. Of course the ruling elite would vanish automatically as would governments do, at least the type of gov't we experience today. They would just remain as kinda property management for common resources, servants, not leaders.

Then you can have money or not, just as a means of exchange while material goods wouldn't count much.

Did i already mention that they shortened our school systems by 1 year last year in Bavaria ? Of course due to the bad economic situation, but i also think they gladly did it because too intelligent and educated people are an inherent danger to the ruling elite.

Oh btw, the Bush picture is a fake, though one of the best fakes ever made and IMO pretty accurate *g*.

Regards
Doc




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