UFO23
3/10/2010 12:39:25 PM

May be aliens or whoever study human behavior and psychology in this way.Or they wanted to contact you, but you had to much fear.

bounjourmadame
3/10/2010 1:15:08 PM

The idea of"wanting to contact" is very interesting. It never ocurred to me although many people believe in that possibility and claimed to have "been contacted" I know I am going to offend many , but I have NEVER believed in "abductions" . Mainly because I have never heard of an account that does seem serious in the nature of the story. I would like to mbe convinced of that possibility , however. By the way it was not me the one who was in a panic, it was my ex-husband. I was actually screaming at him the whole time to stop the car !!!!!!!!,
thanks,
A

LJ
3/10/2010 2:32:01 PM

Thanks for using all lower case in your last response - it makes reading much
easier.

Unfortunately, memories do fade as we all recognize. But, profound events such
as what you're reporting, continue to have lasting impression, even if some of
the details remain hidden.

I myself believe that the 'alien abduction' scenario has happened, over time,
although I think the numbers claimed are greatly exaggerated.

On the otherhand, you say that you've never believed in 'abductions', so this might
be a plus in the sense that your memories aren't being influenced by cases that
received a lot of publicity.

Only you (and your other two witnesses) know how profound an effect this
has had on you - we weren't there and can't fully appreciate your first-hand sense of
what you're reporting. There's just not too many conclusions we can reach, since
all we have before us is a paragraph or two. But if honestly sharing your memory
provides some sense of comfort or relief, then by all means do so.

As to regression, it may be helpful (but there's no guarantee), if you are determined
to get some peace of mind in trying to figure out exactly what might have happened.

Not an easy task, since regression is probably expensive and might require several
sessions - and of course, it should be done by professionals and not some Johnny
come lately. You'll have to do some research on your own to see what services, if any, may be available in your area. I don't really know how the medical community
supports regression, but look into it as you see fit.

Or perhaps, get in contact with a well established ufo organization who might be
able to provide helpful advice or point you in the right direction. It's not an easy
thing to do, given public perceptions of this sort of thing. People can be quite
insensitive.

To the best of my knowledge, encounters (where there may have been lost time
reported or the possibility of an alien abduction), are of a random nature, without regard to the victim's individual beliefs, occupation, etc..

Of course, we don't know for sure. Many reported abduction scenarios seem
to share some similarities, i.e. partial memories that something happened, lost time,
a clinical exam, etc.. but beyond that, not much more.

Many presume that there's some kind of interest in genetics or reproductive issues.
This may or may not be true as there just doesn't seem to be a clearly defined pattern.

The reference to 'wanting contact', in my opinion, shouldn't even be on the table
for discussion. We don't know what an alien agenda involves, if that's what's actually
involved here, but it doesn't seem reasonable to conclude that abductions or
close encounters do not occur simply because the witness 'wanted contact'.



LJ

LJ
3/10/2010 2:36:47 PM

Oops... last sentence should read:

...but it doesn't seem reasonable to conclude that abductions or close encounters occur simply because the witness 'wanted contact'.




LJ

UFO23
3/10/2010 2:46:41 PM

Well, I think they can contact people, but not like we are used to do this.It happens in somewhat different way.But the very first step is showing to a contact person an unusual flying object or UFO.Different people will react to this in different way, but if a person is not scared by this event and instead is fascinated or want to know more about this then thay regard this person as suitable for further contact.However their way of living and thinking is very different from our and because of this they must first change our way of thinking so that we can understand them.They can do this by projecting mental images to the contact person.The problem is that for most people this information is very wierd and they can't understand what it means.Maybe it's only at beginning so and with time it will be more clear, but people must also want to understand it because otherwise it will not work.
This is what I think about this.

LJ
3/10/2010 7:54:29 PM

With respect to abduction scenarios, the vast majority of these suggest that there's
little or no communication exchange reported between the abductee and the
aliens - of course, there are exceptions such as the Hills case where Betty
reports having a rather extensive exchange. And there are indeed other cases
where some communication is made, often described as being more telepathic.

Generally, my understanding is that the majority of abductees describe robotic type
entities totally insensitive to the plight of their victim, even though most accounts
refer to entities sharing similarities with us, with respect to having arms, legs and
heads (with varying differences).

And it seems that most abductees are either partially or totally immobilized at some
point and not able to resist or respond, either out of natural fear or as a result of
alien influence. Again, Betty Hill may be one of the few exceptions.

I can only imagine that such an experience would most certainly have to be
traumatic when a person is confronted by something totally out of the norm; from
something that defies beliefs, by seemingly more advanced beings. I don't believe
I'd be cool, calm and collected under those circumstances.

Of course, a visual encounter (sighting) alone probably wouldn't result in the
same level of panic or fear as compared to an actual abduction, unless it were at
extremely close range, as the poster of this thread mentions.

I agree that people subjected to extraordinary encounters such as these will
react quite differently, depending upon the circumstances, either immediately
afterwards or even years later. But in each instance, the aliens are clearly
in control at the time of the event and the victim powerless.

Oh, I don't doubt that aliens may be able to contact any one of us, if they chose to.
But that just doesn't seem to be their typical MO. I do believe that some abductions
have taken place over the years -- I just disagree with the notion that encounters or
abduction scenarios are a result of the witness 'wanting to be contacted'.

My belief is that most close encounters, sightings and even reported alien
abductions seem more of a random nature, as in being in the right spot at the
wrong time.

What's truly puzzling is that why these reports continue to surface (i.e. missing time,
alien abduction, etc..). Aliens have already had thousands of years to study our
behavior, our chemistry, reproductive issues and everything else. So the agenda is truly puzzling, yet important enough not to reveal openly.

You can attach a whole laundry list of reasons, to explain sightings by themselves. Perhaps there is some sort of gradual acclimation program in place to where sightings are intentional. The Washington DC flap of 52 for example, in my opinion, represents
a demonstration for a select group of people to take notice of. And there's been
other similar instances.

Sightings may also be inadvertant and just part of some continued surveillance
program, if we are being visited by several different groups -- although why such a
program would require thousands of years to complete is beyond my thinking.

Perhaps one reason that 'they' have not revealed themselves and prefer to play
this secrecy game, is that they recognize that mankind has considerable problems to
overcome. Or they have something else in mind.

But as a race, we are pretty much barbaric, wasteful and willing to destroy
anything and everything for reasons 'they" may not understand (money, oil and
for kicks). I dislike the idea, but only a complete modification to man's mindset on a mass scale could make contact (or disclosure) workable, so perhaps this explains
their remaining anonymous.


LJ

UFO23
3/11/2010 5:22:47 AM

This abduction reports are nothing else as mental projections.They are like dreams, but you are not sleeping.You can even walk and do anything else you want.At this time the person is under full or partial mental control and altough it can decide to do or not to do some things the visions are such real that it's difficult to differentiate what is real and what is a dream.And because of this people really think that they were somewhere at other places like alien spaceships or even planets.And maybe they were there in another body and some alien were here in their body.May be it working like this, that they can take control over a human body or give a human another body.

LJ
3/11/2010 4:32:26 PM

Well, let's just say that none of us really knows what truly lies behind the alien
abduction phenomenon.. so, all we're doing is engaging in conjecture.

Certainly, not all reported cases are true or what they appear to be, but still,
I believe that some have occurred and there's surely a much better explanation
than just mental projections.

Presuming one is very familiar with the Betty and Barney Hill case for example, the
least of all explanations that I would consider, would be one that attempts to
explain it away as mental projections.

It's just my opinion, but I believe there's a tendency or trend (maybe even a
preference) by some, to 'invent' explanations just to support a certain
conclusion - to satisfy some need or requirement.

It wasn't too many years ago that someone came up with the brain storm that
sleep disorders can explain away abduction accounts. While I don't argue that
people do in fact have sleep disorders, it's too easy an explanation to blanketly
suggest that all abduction accounts can be attributed to this.

The same with the suggestion that mental projections account for all abduction
reports -- that's like saying that saying that all ufo sightings are mirages,
attributable to temperature inversions, despite simultaneous visual and ground
confirmation. After all the years I've followed this subject, I'm not buying the
sleep disorder or mental projection theories.

I'm of the opinion that we just aren't able to satisfactorily explain many
inexplicable cases where something traumatic apparently did happen. Therefore,
we're trying to invent solutions.

The problem is, many abduction cases are supported by long lasting emotional
reactions -- or sometimes there are unsual physical scars, or there was landing
trace evidence or unusual stains on clothing, etc..


LJ

bounjourmadame
3/11/2010 5:12:53 PM

TESTING BECAUSE MESSAGES ARE NOT GOING THROUGH...

bounjourmadame
3/11/2010 5:48:35 PM

Gee.. thsi short message went throug and encouraged by it I wrote my third long reply and it didn't go through...is anyone else having this problem?