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Scott Johansen
1/9/2004 5:42:40 AM

here is a post supporting nephlim theory

Are Giants Returning to the Holy Land? by Barry Chamish
Are the Anakim or the Refaim, the giants of the Bible, returning to Israel today? There are only two periods of recorded history when giants were reported in Israel; In biblical days from the time of the Flood to the ascension of King David and since 1993 in modern Israel.
The case for the return of giants to Israel is strong. In fact, what characterizes the current Israeli UFO wave from others in the world, is the shere abundance of physical evidence left behind by the visitors. Consider the first incident to usher Israel into the UFO age.
On the evening of Sept. 28, 1987, a 27 year old auto mechanic, Ami Achrai was driving just south of Haifa when he saw what he thought might be a helicopter in distress hovering just above the sands of Shikmona Beach on the Mediterranean Sea. He stopped his car and to his utter amazement saw a disc-shaped craft which emitted a bright red flash before disappearing.
Two days later he returned to the site with a ufologist the police referred him to, Hadassah Arbel. What they discovered remains one of the most lasting proofs ever left by a UFO of its physical existence. The flash emitted by the craft burned its image into the sands of Shikmona Beach. A fifteen metere ellipsoid disk was burnt black into the sand but what was more interesting was what wasn't burned. In the vegetation which wasn't burned was a clear image of the pilot of the craft facing a control board.

Examing the Shikmona Beach burnt image

Crew from Sightings at Kidima Circle
Seven years later I sent samples of the burnt sand to the television show Sightings which subjected it to laboratory tests. The sand seemed to melt in the heat of the camera light. The reason later discovered was the sand particles were covered by a low melting hydrocarbon material. The laboratory could find no natural or human explanation for the phenomenon.

Ami Achrai's incident was followed by a repeat performance on June 6, 1988 when a similarly shaped craft was once again burned into the sands of Shikmona Beach, about 100 yards north of the first site. This was followed by the most spectacular display of all. On April 27, 1989, two teenagers witnessed a UFO explode into thousands of shards over Shikmona Beach.
By now, Israeli ufologists were prepared to handle the latest incident more scientifically. The beach was strewn with burning white metal which was cool to the touch. The metal even glowed in water. When picked up, the shards turned into a white ash. Scientists from the Technion Institute of Technology tested the site and found that magnetism was 6000 times higher than the surrounding area. The shards were found top be very pure magnesium.
Two hundred yards above Shikmona Beach is a biblical shrine called Elijah's cave. Here Elijah preached and here or somewhere nearby in the Carmel Mountains, Elijah challenged the Canaanites to a duel of Gods. Two bulls were tethered and the gods were beseeched to roast them. Naturally, baal failed the Canaanites but Elijah's God sent a ray of light from heaven which cooked the bull on the spot. This ray must have been similar to the kind of beam which burned the sands of Shikmona Beach into a saucer shape.[watcher comments: The ray which Elijah's God sent from heaven was similar to the that which burned the sand into a saucer shape, but not for the reason Chamish is suggesting. While the power source of Chamish's two rays are distinct, the similarity results from the masterful counterfeiting by rebel angels masquerading as aliens in UFOs. Satan and his rebel angels seek to IMITATE & COUNTERFEIT the Creator, or as satan declares: "I will be compared to the Most High - Isaiah 14:13"]
Within the Cave of Elijah is an ancient drawing of something that was the spitting image of the craft burned into the sands below. The Sightings team decided the image "was a coincidence. Maybe it was a bat." When Michael Hesemann filmed the drawing he left certain it was a match for the burned sand pictures.
Although the cave drawing's meaning is in dispute, the fact of the modern UFO- burned inscriptions is not. Something unique occurred at Shikmona Beach. Alien craft decided to leave souvenirs there at least three times. By doing so, they revealed the dimensions of their craft and apparently pilot, as well as their construction material. These were not crop circles nor were they formed the same way. A very different message was left on Shikmona Beach's sands.
After the UFO explosion, there was a hiatus of UFO activity until 1993 broken only once in late 1991 over the village of Sde Moshe, some five miles from Kadima. There, after two straight nights of having the inside of his house lit up by an unexplained craft hovering above it, Eli Cohen captured the responsible UFO on videotape. Several minutes of the tape were filmed after daybreak making the result a most clear and convincing record of a UFO.
It seems the visitors were merely scouting the Kadima area in 1991 but they returned in force in 1993. And this time, the occupants of the crafts did more than merely hover in the sky.
In the early morning of April 20, Tsiporet Carmel's house glowed from within. She stepped outside and saw what she thought was a new fruit silo built outside her back yard. But then she saw the silo add a second storey to itself. Ten yards to the side of this magical silo, Tsiporet saw a seven foot tall being wearing metallic overalls. Its head was covered in a what looked like a beekeeper's hat. Tsiporet said, "Why don't you take off your hat so I can see your face?" The being answered her telepathically, "That's the way it is."
This was Israel's first publicized close encounter with an alien being. Tsiporet could easily have been made an object of ridicule but for the fact that a crop circle 4.5 metres in diameter was found exactly where she had seen the craft. Within the circle were shards of a material later found to be a very pure silicon. I add, Israel's ufologists are divided over the veracity of the silicon because there was a prankster loose in Kadima.
However, within ten days, two more circles were found just outside Tsiporet's back yard. This time, they were soaked with a red liquid and this fluid would be a constant feature of upcoming landing circles. It was tested by the National Biological Laboratory in Ness Tziona and found to be composed mostly of cadmium.
This was the end of Tsiporet's incidents. Now the visitors concentrated on two other woman in their late thirties living on Hapalmach Street. The first was a Russian immigrant Mara. Strange forces shook her house so hard they caused the outside airconditioning unit to fall out of its casing into the house. Voices called to Mara in her childhood nickname. Eventually she decided the house was haunted and she moved far from Kadima.
Shosh Yahud is the treasurer of the town of Kadima. She is down to earth and wants as little to do with her UFO experience as possible. In May, she awoke to see a seven foot, round faced being in silvery overalls circling her bed as if "floating on his shoes." The creature assured her he was not there to harm her and she became relaxed. After a few minutes the being floated through her wall outside.
Shosh thought she had dreamed the incident until she looked out her wondow in the morning and saw a 4.5 meter crop circle in her backyard. The ufologists descended on her home and discovered the silicon and cadmium within the circle.
Next, in June, it was Hannah Somech's turn to be visited by a giant. Hannah lives in Burgata, three miles from Kadima. She was startled to see her dog go flying across the kitchen into a wall. She stepped outside to investigate and her way was stopped by an invisible force. She then saw a seven foot, round-faced being in metallic overalls examining her pickup truck. She said to it, "What did you do to my dog?" It answered telepathically, "Go away. I'm busy. I could crush you like an ant if I wanted to. Go back to your husband."
Needless to say, a 4.5 meter circle crushed out of the grass was later found in Hannah's back yard. Within, the grass was soaked with red liquid cadmium.
By the end of the summer, the credible reports of giants roaming the land persuaded the normally staid television station Channel One, to broadcast a one hour program on the subject. Tsiporet and Shosh appeared as well as the ufologists who had examined the circles of Kadima. To the apparent shock of the host, the viewing audience believed the advocates of alien landings. The result was two more witnesses coming out into the open.
Both were women in their late thirties who lived within ten miles of each other south of Tel Aviv. Clara Kahonov of Holon was most reluctant to be quoted but acknowledged that she had seen a giant being.
Batya Shimon of Rishon Letzion saw far more than one. In early July, two seven foot tall, bald creatures beamed themselves into her seventh floor apartment. They told her telepathically not to be frightened and she immediately relaxed. She then felt they had "friendly faces." They roamed her home, "floating on their shoes" dusting her shelves with a yellow, foul- smelling powder. One being saw her son's aquarium, became very excited and called his colleague over. After a few minutes, they beamed themselves outside. The next night at 3am, a dozen giants visited Batya arriving and leaving the same way.
I have had extensive conversations with the contactees and there is much in common with their stories. That is fit subject for a separate lecture. In short, all were the same age, all were white collar workers, three have been haunted since their encounters telepathically, all their men slept through the encounters, two had mysterious pregnancies etc. But the core commonality is that these women did not know each other and separately described the same seven foot tall, bald, round-faced giants.
And if absolute proof that giants were about in Israel was needed, it came in December in the village of Yatzitz, twelve miles east of Rishon Letzion. The giants had opened a new axis after Kadima, a triangle of twenty miles linking Rishon Letzion, Holon and Yatzitz.
Herzl Casatini, the village security chief and his friend Danny Ezra were sharing conversation when they heard an explosion and felt Ezra's house shake. Herzl opened the door and stood face to face with a nine foot tall creature in metallic clothes whose face was hidden in "a haze." He shut the door and called the police. They arrived and discovered deep boot tracks in the hard mud. The tracks sunk 35 centimeters into the ground meaning whoever made them had to have weighed, literally, a ton. Thinking there might have been a terrorist incursion, the army was called in.
Military trackers were totally stumped. The tracks carried on for 8 kilometers. The heel dug in only 5 cm. meaning whatever made the tracks was walking almost on tip-toes. If you can call it walking. Sometimes the distance between tracks was twelve feet, meaning the intruder was a world record holding broad jumper weighing about a ton.
The Yatzitz incident confirmed, even to the deepest skeptics, that giants were indeed sighted and they left proof that was nearly impossible to dispute. The best the Israeli authorities could come up with to explain the tracks was they were left by an unknown cult. It would have to be very unknown for records of cults whose ceremonies include dressing as giants and leaving miles of unidentifiable tracks are undoubtedly quite rare.
After Yatitz, giant sightings were reported in Ramat Hasharon, Rehovot and Afula. And 1996 became a vintage year for UFO evidence gathering with a good dozen craft filmed. Two incidents stand out. In August, a UFO was filmed over three nights with professional equipment at Kibbutz Hatzor. The results include a closeup of what appear to be rows of square-shaped vents on the craft. In December, a Netanya household reported constant contact with small greys, the first such report from Israel. The witnesses backed up their claims with an abundance of physical evidence, including stones that melt ice immediately without a known energy source.
The Israeli UFO experience is unique and very complicated. I have touched on just one aspect of it; but it is vital to understanding the Israeli puzzle. Of the seven best documented close encounters with alien beings provably connected to UFOs, six involved giants. These giants were determined to leave evidence of their arrival in the form of cadmium-imbued landing circles, miles of impossible boot tracks and deliberate communication with witnesses. Indeed, the abundant evidence more than indicates that there are giants roaming Israel today.
As there were 5,000 years ago and they also left proof of their existence. The giants were descended from the nefilim, literally the fallen ones. In ancient time, entities fell on Israel from the heavens and later became the mortal enemies of the Hebrew nations.

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1/10/2004 6:44:23 PM


Robert L. Sharp
1/10/2004 7:43:15 PM

Maybe we are all dumbfounded!

Scott Johansen
1/10/2004 8:38:24 PM

Thanks Robert. you made me laugh .
Youre alright man. I've been having the worst headaches and nosebleeds lately and I guess i'm just getting a little testy.


Robert L. Sharp
1/10/2004 8:52:47 PM

Headaches and nosebleeds??????
That is one of the thingies that go on with abductions! uh oh......

Scott Johansen
1/10/2004 9:17:50 PM

come on!!!!

well iv'e never been abducted to my knowledge. Hell i've never even seen a ufo. I just know that they exist from the countless accounts and photographs. The bible gives us less proof of the existence of God but you dont see very many people doubting It. Any way . I have had a lot of pretty wierd dreams lately and having a lot of strange noises,mini tornados and low distant rumbling sounds on my property.(about 80acres in the Ozarks) no lights though really nothing else. never before have I had a graeat interest in ufos .I just accepted them. I am a well balanced stable educated man and have had no trauma outside of the ord.. I probably just have high blood pressure. Going to the doctor on wed. I'm 37
Thanks for the concern. I'm tired now .Going to bed.I am usually upwithin two or three hours after bed time from this crap so maybe i'll see you then.

Night all.

1/26/2004 4:18:03 PM

If you belive or want to learn more about nephlims and gaints then vist www.met.net

2/1/2004 8:15:20 PM

I beleive the nephalim was a rewriting of the Sumerian Annunaki. The idea of Giants appears in many ancient cultures.

True (-)Believer
2/14/2004 3:03:14 AM

Wow! I've always thought that most of the references in the Bible (pertaining to "God", Yahweh, Elohim**, etc.) were what we would consider to be UFO/E.T. sightings/encounters.
I never thought that I was the only one who thought this way, I've just never heard anyone else with the same theory.
One thing I'm kind of puzzled about though, in Genesis 6, it says (KJV):
"(1) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,(2) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
(3) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
(4) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."

These "giants" are also called (In other versions,) the "Nephlim", correct?
and the "[children]" that they bore, were of "old, men of renown." Were they also referred to as the "Nephlim"?

**a friend of mine, who is from Isreal, told me that the form of the word/ name/ title "Elohim" is in plural.

Rick Sobie
2/14/2004 9:28:08 AM

Hi Scott,

How to explain this...

Often times, people who are in communication with angels, will try to
find out more about certain things they have heard through the grapevine,
by making their presence known to the UFO community in a variety of ways.

I don't like to say that they make false claims as to what they see, maybe they
do actually see these things, but the fact that it often contains innuendo regarding
other real events which go on in the world, cannot be mere coiincidence.

So these Nephlm sightings and reports are more of an inquiry, to determine,
if David is here, as some had suggested, and he is not 7 feet tall but maybe
6' 3" or 4", and iit is of interest to many people there of course because he is the
king which was prophesized about. So you can imagine that if you had heard
rumors in 1993 that David had returned, you might put out feelers of some sort
to try and find out more information without disclosing anything.

The red cadmium, is a reference to the fact that David is a member of red team.

The disk, well look up on the top right, second from the right, that is the shape
of the disk, we think that David has as well.

So maybe, a sighting was reported, of a disk like the one above, at that time
somewhere else in the world, and in that sighting report, someone made some
innuendo remark that they thought it might be David, and so in Israel,
people began to get excited and attempt to gain more information by
making these reports or perhaps did actually witness something of
a nature designed by a higher power to clue them in to the fact that David was back.

White light in the sky over a mountain at such and such, this is MIB talk.

Blue light, with white, and and all that, it is all code from MIB and angels
and people in the know.

Not always, but sometimes.

People like to keep informed and share information and sometimes they just want to
comment on some angel or person who has impressed them.

David is impressive as you might imagine, and the fact that women in their mid
thirties were talking about it and making claims in that regard, is not surprising
to me at all. He would be a heart throb to many I am sure.

After all, won't he be needing a queen?

2/14/2004 9:54:34 AM

Here are the lyrics from "Hallelujah" in the animated movie "Shrek". Do they ring a bell for David? The implication is of course in accordance with his love affair with a married woman and whose husband King David killed. Is this the *David* to whom you are referring?

HALLELUJAH..sung by Rufus Wainright

I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you
To a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe I've been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
love is not a victory march
Its a cold and its a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time you'd let me know
What's real and going on below
Remember when I moved in you?
The holy dark was moving too
And every breath we drew was hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there's a God above
And all I ever learned from love
was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
Its not a cry you can hear at night
Its not somebody who's seen the light
Its a cold and its a broken hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

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