clouds of ink (like a smoke bomb maybe), camouflage, smelling blood, etc..
Thats what I learn years ago in elementary school..
I forgot to mention, there are some animals can survive an extreme temperature
(hot/cold).. Maybe we tend to guess that in hot environment needs again a
"harder or greater body"? But as I know, there are also many little animals..
Speaking of capability to live or to adapt.. Imagine you're being struck with
water.. lets say 500000 cubic at a time at certain amount of speed.. I presume
we were all be dead.. Here, after a flood where cattle and human lives can't
endure.. I notice there are many lifeforms which survive.. For example the
thing we call as "lipan" (I don't know what is the english names, but maybe you
called it centipede or milipede, but we got 5-7 inches long), also bugs, worms,
maggots,etc.. Maybe "smart" wont save us every day.. What I want to point out
is.. An environment or condition, natural or artificial, which may endanger
human lives may however be a comfort place for others.. Though 9G is so
dangerous, there still possible a lifeform could hold up.. Not to mention if
they obtain an eksoskeleton..
And.. how if their planet gravitational forces were more than 9G? our earth
will be a breeze playground..
About 700G's.. A constant gravitation chamber is still possible to be made.. In
the sea, we can use a submarine with constant pressure chambers to maintain the
As I found out that most of the problem is all of us were just guessing the
possibilities.. We won't found the truth until we meet the aliens itself..
2. About the ships
If we need an oxygen to breathe, doesn't mean they need the same..
If we have iron and steel to build ships, doesn't mean they use the same..
The vast universe is rich for resources which may be alien to us..
Our periodic table (you know the chemical stuff) may still not contain the
material we need to produce such hi-tech ships.. I agree with you that no
"known" ships from earth "at present" will be able to face a lightspeed
travel.. Metal fatigue will be the cause..
Every ships will need certain fuel.. How if they have the experience to use
those resources they found in the universe as the fuel.. Maybe the water, the
air, or a common beach sand.. It's all still a possibilities..
We still accustomed to ships with wings or triangular like shapes.. Different
culture will produce different ships.. at least a different painting (just
kidding).. If they found the first design of ships were circle like (disc
shapes) then the next generation of ships will based on the first one..
They may not invent shampoo or acne medicine.. But maybe in flying machines
they're more advance..
About a UFO crash?
I assume they're not using Microsoft Windows or Linux on their machine..
Maybe because a common error..
1% of error possibility still may occur though the 99% of possibility were a
Sorry, I want to say this one thing.. can you understand? (because I don't know
how to say it right!)
I believe we can make ourself "nearly immortal" (live forever).. but still will
be dead if being killed.. or burned..
3. About the culture & interstellar technology
The earth is rich.. but how if their planets were richer? How if they have
Some certain aspect of culture also must exist but not the same form.. We have
alphabet or pictograf.. they must have similar kind.. we have radio waves..
they must have similar either.. But we may not receive it because of different
interpreter. Maybe they use a different modem.. Maybe they use "packets" in
their communications.. Compressing or encrypting data so what we receive is
only a "bark" or a "cough" voice from outer space.. We use binary (2 based
characters system).. how if they use 60 based characters in their machines?
Western civilization has alfabet but chinese have thousands of letters.. Can we
break their codes? And how they communicate with their homeworld? I must say
"IF" they communicate.. maybe they're just charting the universe.. then return
to their homeland.. maybe they use a different spectrum.. But I must say won't
be effective due the distortion caused by magnetic fields.. If they do make a
constant communication, they must have build relay stations everywhere.. But
the universe is moving.. May not be economical to build relay stations where
they doesn't really live.. To chart a galaxy is still a possibility.. But to
chart a constellation will need a long-long time.. If you want to communicate
to other star systems, then we have to build a radio transmitter which can
produce a signal which wont be interfered by the sun..
But one thing for sure.. for an interstellar travel.. we will need a mother
ship.. a moving factory.. a moving city.. a moving fuel depot.. a moving relay
antenna.. While smaller ships must be just a scout ship.. a shuttle.. a
defender.. If the smaller ships can travel, lets say maybe
3.000.000-6.000.000km's away each sortie.. (just a guess) then the mother ship
must be able to cruise even further and faster.. Will you travel from USa to
Brazil in a scooter and a moto-cross bike? I prefer to put those bike in a van
then put the van in an airplane.. then I drop by in the airport, I'll cruise
with my van, then where the road isn't friendly enough I'll use my bike.. In
the city where small alleys exist.. I'll use my scooter.. Got the picture?
The distance will reduce the ships age.. Greater ships will be the best
4. Please Unite
We're dying to meet them but.. They may have a different policy from centuries
to centuries.. Maybe their policy now is not to interfere as much as possible..
Maybe they give a hint to our ancestors how we should live.. Flying machines..
silver coated "angels".. lights in many colors.. clouds with voice.. Travellers
from the stars.. Flying circles where holy man comes in and out.. A genocide or
war based by voice of the gods from winged vehicles.. Something inhuman must
have affect our life since the beginning of time.. Far before we found our
We should make a hurry in our attempt to reach interstellar flight..
Before our resources were depleted.. We must start sending people for
colonization.. Still economical reasons will be the 1st then scientific will
follow.. We're destroying each other for our pityful beliefs.. about god..
nationalism.. racism.. etc.. Hey brother.. we're sitting on the same piece of
rock.. If I must kill.. I wish it's not a friendly alien or another human..
Waste resources no more.. make haste..
==== And these countries should follow
Rest of Europe
=== While these should also be involved
Rest of Asia
Rest of the USSR
South American League
Countries Near India
Will be a nice candidate to boost the space programe..
Just a feeling..
Don't be mad if your country were not listed..
I even doesn't insert my country.. It will be a pleasant surprise if the space
program is being done by United Nations.. Still, our technologiical achievement
won't easily wiped customs and ethnic groups..
We have to start mining and building everywhere.. Wouldn't be nice if we have
more than one planets?
I say we must line up..
Make people interested about space..
Obtain support as much as possible..
Then send it to our government..
Make a survey or anything..
One me and one you alone won't make a change..
Together we will prevail..
Who will be the next Magellan?
or Yuri Gargarin?
or Neil Amstrong?
Mr. Rajesh Kumar how is your country doing?
Mr. Illuminati have any idea?
And Mr. Tago..
Your ability to provide answers is very sharp..
Doesn't agree doesn't mean not useful..
Different sided ideas can build new ideas or even better, a conclusion..
I don't care if UFO's exist or not..
But I will not wait until an alien come and gives their technology to us
Because it'll make us looks like a dumb..
We'll have more pride if we doing it by ourself..
Maybe if the aliens were very nice.. I can change my mind to accept their
If they can build a spaceship..
Why can't we?
Sorry if my words aren't appropriate in terms of grammar etc.
With an Indonesian hospitality, thank you all for reading..
David Yacobus Hengkengbala
Im afraid they have already given us technology. Acording to Bob Lazer the US military was given nine flying saucers which are stored at area51. You need element115 for the gravity amplifiers to work.
Ganesh 4/5/2004 1:59:28 PM
Can't agree more. We should have reach the star before the end of the century if we didn't fight each other. Just for a reminder, the memory chip we use is also came from silicon extracted from a beach sand. For energy I don't know, but maybe some scientist can give an idea?
Have you play the Freelancer game? For wormhole may be too advance for us, but rocket or nuclear propeled should work fine to reach outer rim of our galaxy.
If the US found a planet, will it belong to the US?
We should make use of the Unoted Earth forces like in the movies.
I guess we do need a mothership, but may not be built here on earth. Why? because we already run out of resources here. So the asteroids may be useful.
Maybe someday we will extract Gas from Saturn.
Dave you use too many "maybe", but you give a nice idea!
Matthew 4/6/2004 3:08:37 PM
I think US alone will be enough to reach space! Your concern is because several country you have listed has no capability in building spaceships, right? I think our best capability is to build WMD.
After think for aw hile.......
Guess we wont reach space after all
Friend.C 4/6/2004 3:13:41 PM
Thanks for the freelancer recommendation. Is that the Edison Trent, right? after installing and playing for 10 hours.. It's time to fight some blue shipped aliens..
The Wormhole with the superluminal travel is very cool...
Jump gate... naaaah... Impossible...
Matthew 4/6/2004 3:21:30 PM
George, the area 51 you have mention and element 115 to work, is it real or just a crap?
I've heard for captured UFO but there's no evidence whatsoever. Got any picture?
David, do you actually understand about the G's?
Friend.C 4/6/2004 3:29:04 PM
Matthew my man, actually I already ask some pilots about how it feels inside a jet plane. They give a nice illustration how it's feel being "crushed" when they make a loop or hi-speed maneuver. I think they drove Sukhoi Su-37 or an F-16 if I'm not mistaken.
While for the pressure in the sea, if we go too fast to the surface after a deep diving, we may blew up... (theoritically)..
I've check that george, thanks!
I think david got the point in the crystal things and the cabin pressure.
But about the area 51, can you give me a nearly exact location, not just in a desert in the middle of nowhere. I mean area latitude longitudewill be better. So I can take a snapshot from above.
George 4/7/2004 3:56:43 PM
Rachel Nervarda Groom lake. You cant go as far up as you used to be able to, I will try and get you a link.
Robert L. Sharp 4/7/2004 4:31:29 PM
Area 51 is about 65 miles north of Las Vegas, Nevada. It is cordoned off for at
least 25 miles in all directions. And as far as flying over to get a snapshot, you
better be prepared to get yourself into some deep doo doo. Not recommended.
I would leave Area 51alone, and just try to find information on it by looking at any
of the search engines, as there are a lot of websites that have info on it, although
it may all be bogus. Please stay away from there, my friend, as it is not a friendly place.