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9/3/2008 9:17:11 PM

UFO Gravity Propulsion Theory / ???

Please read the last two paragraphs first. Comments are appreciated.

Many different shapes and sizes of UFO craft have been reported, and many alien beings of different appearance, color, stature, etc…have been reported. This suggests that some of them arrived here from other planets, perhaps only 10 light years away, but maybe some have traveled several hundred light years. Is it reasonable to think that their crafts travel faster than the speed of light?

Even though some alien races may have survived beyond a deteriorated environment on their home planet and may be able to live in space continuously, I think they may still require pit stops to replenish supplies! I doubt any would set out on a 20 light year long round trip to planet Earth if their crafts could only travel as fast as light. I think it is reasonable to think their crafts travel much faster than light. This fact doesn’t reconcile with our current understanding of physics.

The maneuvers made by these UFO craft in our atmosphere suggest a propulsion system that uniformly accelerates all matter within the craft including the craft. I think alien beings are not capable of withstanding the enormous G forces that their bodies would experience, if a gravity-type of pull was not exerted evenly on all of the matter in their body. This propulsion system cannot be reconciled with our current understanding of physics.

This UFO evidence suggests to me that ALL movement of ALL particle matter (to include photons, electrons, atoms, people, cars, planets, UFO craft, etc…) is caused by the pull of long (many kilometers, but length varies), high speed (light years per second) ether particles traveling in straight lines and in ALL directions. These very fast, long, linear ether particles, LEPs, occupy “empty” space, including the space within ALL particle matter. (per cent fill ??)

Also, all matter is composed of ether particles. LEPs attach to matter and exert a gravity-type pull, a pull that is evenly and uniformly distributed throughout matter. These LEPs have the same speed as the matter which they are attached to and their numbers are proportional to the mass. LEPs radiating from two bodies of matter interact directly to cause gravity. Meaning, LEPs which are attached to one body of matter extend thru a second body of matter and exert some pull on the omnipresent LEP field existing everywhere even within the second body and, also, exert some pull (gravity) on the matter in the second body. (Clearly, LEPs are composed of smaller particles which have an affinity for each other, are directional (polarized), and readily arrange themselves into long perfectly straight strings.)

The impedance to the acceleration of matter, inertia, is caused by the LEP field. The constant speed of light is caused by the forward pull of LEPs on photons while forward movement is impeded by other LEPs, those not traveling exactly parallel to the photon’s direction, as they move rapidly (light years per second) past and out of the way of the oncoming photon.

LEPs are either pulling on a photon at the speed of light, or pulling on other matter at a lesser speed, or traveling across the universe at many light years per second. LEPs catch up to, attach to and pull on any LEP traveling less than maximum velocity. Since LEP length builds and has no theoretical limit, gravity has no theoretical limit. (LEPs which are attached to matter might explain the hidden dark matter. Also, one might see some similarity between the LEP and theoretical descriptions of the Higgs boson.)

The following was added to clarify LEP metaphysics:
Since LEP length builds and has no theoretical length limit in ” empty space,” gravity similarly would have no theoretical limit. However, since normal ”empty space” is not empty and does at a minimum contain a fabric composed of the high speed LEP field and other LEPs radiating from ALL particle matter, the presence and varying density of the space fabric will limit LEP length and limit gravity’s reach. This occurs because LEPs are composed of smaller particles (sub-particles) held together by identical attractive forces with each sub-particle exerting a pull. As a LEP’s length builds, the LEP’s pull builds and its pulling strength depends on the density of the space fabric that is available to be pulled on, until the tension exceeds the attractive force between two sub-particles, then the LEP breaks free and another LEP attaches, builds, breaks free, ad infinitum. Since a decreasing tension occurs between sub-particles with increasing distance from the point of attachment to ALL particle matter, the point of maximum tension and also the point of breakage will always occur where the LEP attaches. Hence, a deliberate effort to rip or tear LEPs free is most easily accomplished very near ALL particle matter. Also, the fact that LEPs exert a pull in short jerks allows ALL particle matter normal movement up to the speed of light in the LEP field.

UFO craft are accelerated by literally cutting, ripping, and tearing away LEPs behind the craft which are pulling in a direction opposite the desired direction of travel. Accelerating the craft to many times the speed of light is accomplished by cutting, ripping, and tearing away LEPs which penetrate the craft side to side and also which are ahead of the craft and perpendicular to the direction of travel.

The field between the plates of an air insulated capacitor consists of electrostatic lines which are “particle matter” just like photons and are pulled by LEPs extending them from the electrons on the negatively charged plate to the positively charged plate. The knife particle (KP) which will cut, rip, and tear LEPs away from ALL particle matter is a special twisted, rope-like, hardened, LINEAR particle created by tightly wrapping electrostatic lines together. Once created and free, the KP spins in the plane of its long axis and about the midpoint of its long axis as LEPs pull and unwrap electrostatic lines.

The KP, when located behind and spinning perpendicular to a craft’s desired direction of travel, will rip LEPs from matter in the craft and accelerate the craft forward. Also, spinning this particle ahead of and in planes parallel to a crafts direction of travel will cut through LEPs crossing in front, causing the craft to accelerate forward, but just as important it will accelerate all debris, including air, forward and to the side, out of the space in front of the craft. (LEPs radiating from debris perpendicular to the direction of travel are ripped from the debris by KPs spinning in planes parallel to the direction of travel causing the debris to accelerate sideways.) This fact may explain the lack of a sonic boom as UFO craft travel at thousands of miles an hour in earth’s atmosphere. And it may also explain how UFO craft avoid striking space debris while traveling at light speed.

The radiation effects felt near UFO craft as they hover or accelerate away may be caused by the very short wavelength photons created as KPs unwrap. The electrostatic lines that make up the KP become very short wavelength photons. This may explain much of the colorful illumination reported surrounding UFO’s. The spinning KPs may create additional illumination by ionizing atoms in the atmosphere. The downward pressure felt by people located beneath the craft would be caused by KPs as they spin - cutting, ripping, and tearing LEPs away from matter in the human body. (If a UFO craft is spotted near ground, it would seem safest to just stay as far away as possible. Some alien occupants may not be very friendly, probably because hunters or military have fired weapons at them. Reports of aliens firing laser-like weapons at humans may be accurate.)

Saucer shaped craft that land on earth frequently leave a circular shaped irradiated area on the ground. Apparently, KPs radiated downward from the saucer rim may sterilize the soil beneath making new growth of plants difficult. Some reports suggest this radiation can be intense enough to start fires in dry grass. The ejected KPs in this radiation pattern forms the shape of a cylinder or cone. It should be recognized that unidentified submerged objects, USOs, when breaking the surface of the water frequently create a waterspout beneath them. If the KP radiation pattern beneath the saucer is cone shaped, it would accelerate vertically all matter within the cones volume, including the saucer. This would account for the water spout, and it may also suggest a method of creating a tractor beam.

LEP propulsion allows UFO craft to accelerate quickly to thousands of miles an hour, make fast sharp angled turns, and stop very quickly. LEPs are a source of immense energy. And, of course, LEPs are much faster than photons for communications. Nanometer sized molecular motors may be used to create KPs.


The KP is being suggested as a way to affect the LEP field. A short video (about 5 min) I saw on TV during the summer, 1996, suggested the same to me. The video showed a highly magnified view of a printed circuit board type device. On the board were thin filamentary conductors in a doubled-back spiral (Fermat’s spiral), that is, one conductor wrapped 85,000 times into the center of the spiral, reversed direction and wrapped another 85,000 times to the outer edge of the spiral, making a complete circuit. The entire circuit was about the size of the head of a pin. The entire board, about eleven inches square, was covered with these pin head sized circuits. Above the board was a mirror image board with the same circuits on it, so that these spiral circuits faced each other. In between the boards was a conductive layer with a single very small hole located centered in between each pair of spirals. A cut of the board also showed channels where a coolant could have flowed. The voice on the TV said it was not known if the board was used for communications or propulsion. I thought it was a communications board, mainly because some spirals were flat and some were concave. I don’t know if this short video was disinformation like “alien autopsy”. However, I don’t think the general public would have been very interested in it. At the time I had been trying to think of a way to wrap electrostatic lines together and the design of this device looked suitable. It seems to me this device could create KPs and cause faster than light digital communications by chopping up LEPs at two different rates.

Rough calculations suggest that since the length of conductor in each spiral may be about 100 meters and since the average rate of electron flow in commonly used conductors like copper, aluminum, silver, gold, etc., is in mm per second, these spirals are probably superconductors. Our current limited understanding of superconductors may be hindering efforts to recreate this technology.


This is theory stretching!
KPs spinning in planes parallel to the craft’s direction are ejected forward of the craft at the speed of light. They cut LEPs crossing in front of the craft. This causes the craft to be accelerated forward and debris to be accelerated forward and to the side. The KPs etch a tunnel in the LEP field which extends a million miles out. Assume the forward speed of light going down the tunnel has been increased 20 times relative to the speed outside the tunnel just by etching away LEPs. The craft, if it could travel one tenth the speed of light outside the tunnel, would now be traveling one tenth the light speed inside the tunnel or 372,000 miles per second (double the normal speed of light). It seems very plausible that KPs traveling down the tunnel at 20 times the speed of light could easily etch away new tunnel at the rate of double the normal speed of light in order to maintain a tunnel length of a million miles ahead of the craft.


“Linear space particle” may have been a better name than LEP, “linear ether particle”. Since I view the LEPs as the medium, I wasn't thinking of the old, ether meaning - a "luminiferous" or particle type medium thru which waves propagate.

I recall in high school seeing pictures of large spiral coils of copper wire 2 or 3 feet in diameter which were used to try to create a particle. Apparently, unsuccessful efforts to create KPs, a particle composed of electrostatic lines wrapped together, were attempted in the 1950’s, and probably many times since. I suspect efforts still continue, perhaps using nanometer sized molecular motors. I am hoping someone reading this might recognize the KP, have knowledge of efforts to create it, and be willing to share that knowledge? Thanks!

This post is a sincere attempt to try to make sense out of phenomena that is not well understood. It is mostly theory. Please keep in mind that the theory presented is metaphysics until people have created the KP particle and experimented with it. However, the short TV video that I saw and the pictures I saw in high school are facts. Does anyone have any additional information on efforts being made to create a KP, a particle composed of electrostatic lines wrapped together???? Thank you. jgjenson

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10/17/2008 8:42:25 AM

I'd also like to know what Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and many other unnamed government employees could testify to about the UFO cover-up. It's illegal to lock your child up in an old wood shed, poke food and water thru a hole in the wall and deny it social development preventing it from maturing into a responsible member of human society. Yet, within our government are those who would mistreat the entire human race in a similar manner. Humanity will never mature to assimilate itself into that large group of intelligent beings who travel, study and search the universe unless our state senators and representatives unite and demand full disclosure of all information related to alien craft sightings!

10/24/2008 4:39:07 PM

As of today, 10/24/2008, no person has responded to the ??? posed in my post. But I did chance across some very interesting web sites which may tentatively corroborate a beam of KP's projected forward of a craft to provide propulsion. Please see:


1/8/2009 9:45:36 AM

it's interesting what you are saying about different type of UFOs.
but it does not prove that they are from different planets.
just see how many different type of vehicles are made by humans.

what is really interesting is that you can see the same type of UFOs on some pictures which were taken on different place and time.

here are some:


the two pictures shows the same type of UFOs from sightly different angle.
if you look thoughtfully you can see the same little tail or posterior.

1/14/2009 2:52:34 PM

I think that just right now researchers is working about the gravity theory. Maybe in Area51 or similar places. We just need some of the guys (inside) to leak some evidence to us.
That must be the US government biggest problem. Because I really think someone inside is trying to bring some evidence out. And to the people inside who read this...... Come on, bring the truth out.

2/16/2009 3:46:17 AM

what a load of croc, thats a seagull you can actually see the head and the wings,i wonder if he got his $30,000 for his camera and so on lol. low intelligence but not enough to con anyone on this site .

3/10/2009 5:06:57 PM

Just a quick "cut and paste" answer that I was discussing elsewhere. I have no time to discuss further now, but I find this site enjoyable. Anyway:
I must add to this discussion. Actually, our laws of physics (yes, according to Einstein) say yes! He did prove that time/space isflexible.

More to come.....

3/10/2009 3:51:20 PM
Had to run...I have guests.
Anyway, the fabric of time/space is flexible, bendable in accordance to the density of the adjacent mass. And if you can "bend' it enough, say, in the presence of a black hole, then you can create a wormhole and thereby take a "shortcut" through both time and space (theoretically, of course). But you need a way to traverse this without expanding into infinity. There is a way (I believe).

And, let's face it, The String Theory, quarks, even wormholes seem to defy the laws of physics, but they do not.

So...using anti-matter as propulsion one can "squeeze" the time/space fabric in front of the ship and simultaneously expand it behind the ship again and again thereby propelling the craft forward almost as if swimming underwater. You create sort of an bubble in the fabric thus protecting its contents. It's hard to explain. Unfortuneately, we have only managed to create the most minute quantity of anti-matter to date, but...we have done so.

So. If the mass in question is protected so to speak in this "bubble" in the fabric, it doesn't expand as one approaches light speed because the object itself isn't subjected to the velocity, only the continuum is. And that is beyond the scope of E=MC2.


3/19/2009 8:36:34 AM

Very interesting. What about the mind? Can it travel faster than the speed of light? Can we leave our body behind and do what seems impossible? Someday I believe we will learn from ourselves.
This is a good theory above...but I think that souls are behind most of the blue light orbs,etc. We could be the aliens we are so fascinated with. Who know...really.

Beam me up scotty.

3/19/2009 10:23:05 AM

Hmmmm.....since light is an actual, visible, measureable "thing" I'd say, yes, the mind is faster than light speed.

As for existing beyond the body...of course. In fact, were it not for the restrictions that our optic rods and cones place on our field of vision -- being able to detect only a small fraction of the visual spectrum -- we would see beyond what we can now imagine. That's why I must pause in regards to the blue orbs. Why would we still be able to see a soul? Why blue? I'll have to ponder this.

As for "we are the aliens"...well, sort of. I'm of the school of thought that eons ago -- approx 450,000 years -- Homo Erectus was genetically altered several times and finally upgraded to Neanderthal with the addition of alien DNA, better known as the Tree of LIfe. He was again altered and upgraded to Cro Magnon or Home Sapiens Sapiens (Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil) while Neanderthal still existed. No one has ever been able to explain the sudden appearance of Cro Magnon. Naturally, there is no "missing link" because we're it. And don't get me wrong; I'm not an atheist. I believe in God the Creator; But I'm convinced that the ancient texts, religious texts, myths, are accounts of what was witnessed by people with virtually no frame of reference beyond describing everything as animal, mineral or earthly (eg. sounds of thunder, great winds, tongues of fire...) They have been so polluted, distorted, fragmented, biased, that we need to step back and look again.

I could write volumes on the subject of mitrochondrial RNA/DNA and the "turning on" of so-called "junk" DNA, but I'll stop here.

3/20/2009 10:42:14 AM

I am not scientific other than I am interested in alot of the theories on UFOs and Bigfoot and the Blue orbs. As a Believer in God I am spiritual...but I am not Christian and was not born a Jew. My faith in God is a personal experience and my personal experience comes from 42 years of seeking the truth.
As a witness to a UFO or multiple UFO's since sometime back, and especially the UFO experience that I had in 2006 (Blue bright star that came to within the visual size of a basketball to me), I am curious to the effects of blue light on the body, its revelance to time travel and/or portals...Its connection to UFO sightings, bigfoot sightings and of course...the newest idea in my mind that somehow blue light can cleanse the soul...illuminate the aura..and its relation to (if any)...propulsion.
Since I have encountered experiences of OUT OF THE BODY nature that included remote viewing and time travel as well as a super ability to move very quickly from point to point within those experiences (which I pretty much keep private)...I wonder if there are others out there, that make up the fabric of the uiverse(s) that know of the coincidences involving blue light that allow them to either purify them selves (possibly for some type of acsention/propulsion to a higher plane, other planet..etc.through a certain attained knowledge) or to be illuminated (such as in exposure to large doses of or small doses of UVA) and in which they can perform extraordinary feats or perform subpar under such exposures (usually leading to cancer. I wonder about the connection between super fast UFOS and the individuals that see them(there deep personal status) and the propulsion theories.
I am not a rocket scientist, but my intuition says that somehow, the blue light that I saw and the massive speed in which it departed had something to do with me individualy and my personal illumination I had at that time. Some how I feel as if I am waiting for more experiences in which I can study this further, but gut check says that I am a subject of God (whether alien or nano particle) in which blue light plays a part of my healing. I found this link I will share about blue light and its effects on MRSA, and I will also think about the theory above some more. I just figured my fascination fit in here. Sorry for my lack of intellect or the bad spelling...I am a three year self taught fool that loves to explore links between these subjects. Thanks for your response.
I do think that the mind and some form of higher thinking may explain alot of the mysteries involving the blue light and the super propulsed UFOS. I feel as if my soul(eternal being) was communicating with my vehicle(body) through some sort of spectrum anomaly. Reading your comments and theories just boosted my fascination. thx.

the MRSA link

3/20/2009 11:51:40 AM

Bear with me here:
Light frequency and velocity are different forms of motion that are mutually transferable. Consider that light from a far galaxy arrives at three points simultaneously. Relative to the galaxy Point One is standing still. Point Two is moving toward the galaxy at a high velocity. Point Three is moving away from the galaxy. What is observed at each point?

At Point One the light is white and its velocity is C (speed of light). At Point Two the light is BLUE shifted and the velocity is C. At Point Three the light is red shifted and the velocity is C. The relative velocity is always C with the difference in motions shifting the frequency.

While light would be red shifted leaving a gravity well, it would be BLUE shifted entering a gravity well. Leaving a distant galaxy it is red shifted. Entering our galaxy it would be BLUE shifted. The net frequency shift due to gravity is very small and is a result of the relative differences in galactic mass and the distance traveled into and out of the gravity well.

This may explain why the object you saw as it came at you was blue.

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