Size of Object(s)

About a half city block

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

No idea only that it seemed a few hundred feet over my house

Description of Area / Surroundings

small city in a rural setting with mountains surrounding us

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I live in a small city with a small airport. We are situated in a valley with mountains all around us. My sister and 3 friends had stopped by and we were standing out in the drive way, along with my nephew. It was 10:45 PM and a beautiful starry night, with a bright 1/2 moon.There were 6 of us. My nephew and one of the other males were standing near the car and were looking at the stars both saw the object and called out to us. We looked up and could not believe this large object passing overhead. It was large half a city block and very quiet. One would never notice this object if you were not looking directly at it . You could see the outline of the object but not the body of it. When it moved over the stars they were blocked out. This may sound silly but it looked like the spaceships on Star Trek when they were just un cloaking only the outline was visable. It went in an easterly direction and without turning it went North and disappeared. I am 60 years old and have never seen anything quite so amazing. I lived in the Prairies where the night sky is like a wide screen TV where you can see in every direction. I have seen some pretty weird things in the sky but never so close.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

No, as the object moved and the stars disappeared when the object moved under them

Witness Background

I worked in Christian ministry for 25 years. Have recently moved from Vancouver BC to a smaller city. I am now doing recall work.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I have believed that something must be out there, I and a girl friend were camping in WA mountains a few years ago and saw something in the the sky that we watched for about 1 hour, When we reported it to the Warden she told us that what we had seen had been sighted numerous times by others.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

Metallic disc-shaped with small dome on top and bottom. The metallic silvery color is darker and not shiny. 4 blinking red lights in every objects body.

Size of Object(s)

I am not so certain about the size but it seems twice as big as a helicopter.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

As high as a helicopter would fly.

Description of Area / Surroundings

Sighting was seen in a busy part of the City. The objects disappeared behind a huge, white building with massive satellite disc on top.

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I was on my way to work one Sunday morning and waiting for the "walk sign" on the corner of 52nd and 9th Ave in Midtown, Manhattan when I spotted 4 metallic disc-shaped objects on the sky (right where I was facing). There was a marathon that day so I dismissed the objects as mere balloons that got away until I saw the red blinking lights. As I in awe,I was trying to figure out what I am witnessing at that moment. They seemed to glide and spin in unison, as if in a fleet position while red lights goes on and off. It disappeared behind a white, tall building that can be seen on 10th Avenue near 53rd Street. Every object has 4 red blinking lights on the disc body. No visible windows except for the small dome in the middle (on top and bottom) of every object - the color of the dome is the same as the rest of the object - metallic dark silver and not shiny. I don't know what I saw that day but it certainly did retain in my mind up until the day I am writing this sighting report.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

It doesn't look man-made to me. How can a man manage to be inside a spinning craft without becoming dizzy?

Witness Background

NURSE. Worked as an Operating Room Nurse and then work for Behavioral Health nowadays.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

Skeptical but interested.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

Arc shaped with a hump in the middle on the bottom of it. SHINY silver metallic color.

Size of Object(s)

maybe 2-300 feet across

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

600 yards away hovering right beneath the cloud line on the horizon

Description of Area / Surroundings

no military bases or airports in the area....was directly above the interstate I-40/75

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It was not flying, it was more hovering silently about 5-600 yards above the interstate. This was about 5:45PM during Rush hour traffic. I watched it as it lights went on and off in various patterns, as i turned off the exit. It was then obscured by the tress for no more than 3 seconds as i approached the red light at the end of the exit. I ran the light to seeif i could see it again... and it was gone. it had just dissappeared. No vapor trail, it wasnt off in the distance..it was just gone.

My roommate was with me in the car and he saw the exact same thing.

it was had a body span of about 2-300 feet fro0m wing tip to wing tip with a hump in the middle on the bottom. there were three lights.one on the close to the end of each wing and one in the middle..but lower..not all in a row.

The lights were the brighest i have ever seen especially in broad daylight.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

NO!!!!!!!!

Witness Background

college educated professional, i work in electronics, have over 20 years martial arts experience, very atute at observing my surroundings

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

alot. i know thyey are real. the universe and span of space is far too large for earth to be the only life inhabited planet. its arrogant and boorish for humans to think we are all there is.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

Black triangular objects with no markings, lights, reflections or familiar aircraft features (stabilizers, etc.).

Size of Object(s)

At arms length, the objects appeared to be less than 2 inches across. The actual size appeared close to that of a private or fighter jet. The objects appeared to be equilateral triangles with less than 100 feet per side.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

Directly overhead. My guess would be around 7500 feet in altitude.

Description of Area / Surroundings

West Los Angeles (urban) just west of the intersection of Pico & Sawtelle Blvds close to Santa Monica airport.

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In the summer of 2000, I was driving with my then girlfriend late one afternoon before sunset westbound on Pico Blvd. just west of Sawtelle Blvd.. While stopped at a traffic light, she pointed to something she saw in the sky which was almost directly over us. I had to lean forward to be able to see up through the windshield to observe 3 identical black triangular objects. I observed them for less than 30 seconds. The objects were motionless and we could not hear any noise from the objects. There were no markings, lights, reflections or familiar aircraft features (stabilizers, etc.), just a solid black object. The objects were in a loose triangle formation separated from each other by a distance of approximately 5 times their individual width. What struck me most was their stillness and almost silhouette-like appearance.

My impression is that the objects were the size of private jets or fighter planes. They were significantly higher in altitude that the normal Santa Monica airport traffic that occurs regularly in that area, enough so that a closed fist at arms length could have covered two of the objects (were they spaced tip to tip).

While observing them, I moved my head to change my viewing angle so as to verify that this was not caused by debris on the widshield or reflections. These were definitely airborne objects.

Once the traffic light changed to green, I resumed driving, but was unable to see the objects again since they were nearly directly overhead. Once we had driven a few blocks so that the objects should have been easier to view from a shallower angle, the sky was empty where thay had been.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

Given the shape of the craft, their hovering behavior and sudden apparent disappearance, I assume that the objects were either undisclosed advanced aircraft or extraterrestrial craft.

Witness Background

At the time, I was working in the entertainment industry as an artist for an internet animation studio. I have a bachelor's degree in Fine Art and am currently self-employed as an illustrator.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I have a strong interest in UFOs, both before and after my sighting. I have read several books on the subject and seen several documentaries, as well as listened to the Coast to Coast radio program. I have found that this interest and the knowledge I have acquired has made me more of a skeptical observer than I was before since I am more aware of the conventional sighting explanations.

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My sighting is consistent with other "Black Triangle" sightings listed here and on other UFO sites.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

From my sister's description (she observed it firstly and in greater detail) it was a large inverted cone with an obtuse (flattened) triangular base - the top of it which bore the red lights moving from corners to apex and back again. I.e. an inverted trapezoid.

Size of Object(s)

I'd estimate 100 ft across and 200 ft deep.

Description of Area / Surroundings

We were living in Crownhill which is a high up part of Plymouth overlooking a valley between residential estates and the naval base in view towards the west , the ufo seemed to be traversing from a south west to north west trajectory over the city.

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It was my younger sister who alerted us (my mother and I) to come and view a large 4 sided trapezoid, like an inverted cone with a triangular rather than flat bottom. My sister saw more of it than I saying she saw lit up windows on it and it was apparently following a dash 7 commercial airplane on route to land at Plymouth airport.

By the time I and my mother came out to see it, it had moved over the other side of Whitleigh valley and seemed to have descended to a very low height, skimming over rooftops. I estimated its size to be about 100 -150 ft across. The top of it had two red lights which moved from the object's two top corners in sequence towards the apex of the upper point of the inverted cone and back down again to the corners. As it was night this was the only way it could now be tracked as the lit 'windows' were not observible. My mother and I watched this silently slow moving ufo traverse in a north-easterly direction until it faded from view. The local paper the next day reported that a couple of women in a car had also observed this object and attempted to follow it as far as they could in their vehicle. I believe it had also been observed flying over the local naval base which is a refitting yard for nuclear submarines. There have been numerous other sightings of ufo's around this dockyard area.

I was most impressed by the object's size and ability to float silently and so low over the Whitleigh and Crownhill estates apparently mere metres above the rooftops!

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

It was far too big and too quiet and too slow to be explained terrestrially and also too low to be an airship or balloon with those moving lights it was inexplicable .

Witness Background

I am a trained laboratory technician with a university background. I was only 13 years of age at the time of the sighting

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I was open-minded, my grandfather had told me of a saucer-shaped sighting he made in Coventry during the 1950's, the experience was very enlightening unlike anything before and has changed my outlook on life. I was a sceptical enquirer before the encounter which turned me into a believer.

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I make this report mainly because I have not come across many reports of ufo's which conform to this particular configuration. I mainly hear about saucer or disk - type or cigar shaped objects. Yet, this inverted trapezoid object which was so apparently huge seems totally extra-terrestrial and I hope that it stimulates others to report objects they may have observed no matter how outlandish and incomprehensible that they might have witnessed.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

The object was a matte gray, definitely non-reflective and looked like a large 55gal drum. No lights were emitted.

Size of Object(s)

I estimate the size of the object to be 10ft tall by 7.5ft wide. I gather this estimate by comparison with the height of the trees it was in front of. Relative size, add an inch to both height and diameter of a 12oz pop can.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

Estimated distance from me is 150yrd and height at 40ft.

Description of Area / Surroundings

Rural transcending to Suburban, along the shore of Grand Lake St Mary's. The lake has a military history as an inert bomb range, but is no longer used for that purpose. Closest military base is Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH. There is a small airport in Montezuma, OH on the other side of the lake and one in New Knoxville, OH about 20 miles from my locaiton at the time.

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I was driving east on Ohio State Route 703 from St Marys to Celina. West of the WSU extension campus I heard a high pitched tone through my window (it was about half way down). I looked toward the noise and saw a cylinder shaped object keeping pace with me against the trees and along the shore of Grand Lake St Marys. The object kept pace with me for about 0.25miles and entered into some wooded lots that also had homes. When I reached the other side I no longer saw the object but could hear the tone become fainter and fainter as I gained distance from the last known location.

The trees are about 40-50ft high, all pine. The object was near the tops and was about 1/5 the height of the trees. I was about 125-150yds from the tree line. The object looked similar to a very large flying 55gal drum that was dark grey in color. Weather conditions were overcast with a slight breeze coming off the lake, the water was not very choppy. I was traveling at 60mph and the object was keeping pace with me. I noticed the drive of a pickup in front of me was also looking out the window and tapped his brakes when I could no longer see the object. We pulled up side by side at an intersection of OH703 and OH29 and asked eachother about the object. He was driving an F-150, I was driving a GMC Sonoma. He (Steve McGregor of Celina, OH) told me he thought it was spinning on the vertical axis, I did not think it was spinning, but it was asymetrical with no lights, could make it hard to tell. He also noticed the high pitched tone.

On the way home I took the same route back, I did not hear the high pitch tone nor did I see anything resembling what I had seen on the way there.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

Hard to say. My dad was in the USMC for 22yrs living around aircraft much of my life I have never seen anything I would say resembled this. My best guess as a man made object would be some sort of rocket stage maybe falling. To the best of my knowledge no such rockets are launched in this area. I would not rule out the possibility of this object being man made.

Witness Background

I have a background in Chemistry, Statistics, and Quality Engineering. I am a Six Sigma black belt and am finishing up my QA engineering degree. I grew up on military bases and was used to seeing aircraft on a near constant basis as well as other military vehicles. I do not believe that aliens exist.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I believe UFO's are what they are and that the term is relative. If you can't ID a flying object, it's unidentified. A UFO and become and IFO later on. Do they have anything to do with alien species? I don't believe aliens exist.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

Glowing disc. Could not see any edges....just radiating light.

Size of Object(s)

1-2 feet width, 6 inches height.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

Closest proximity approaced 1 meter.

Description of Area / Surroundings

Wooded area behind my home in the suburbs of Edmonton.

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To whomever reads this. Rest assured this is a real exerience. Even though this occured back in 96 I still remember it very clearly, and I feel it is important that I report this now.

Behind my home was a wooded area. I frequently went for bikerides and played there at that time I was 13 years old. It was the middle of the day, while me and a younger friend of mine were playing with an ant colony in the woods. One of us turned around and alerted the other to a strange band of light floating several feet above the ground a few meteres away from us. We did not know at first what it was so we stood there at first questioning eachother what it was and wether or not it was some sort of optical illusion. It was moving somewhat erratically up and down but in an overall direction towards us. To our horror, it approaced within 1 metre of us and we realised this was no illusion and ran out from the woods and home.

Looking back on this, I dont know whether it was something spiritual or some sort of bizarre craft.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

Some sort of optical illusion involving a reflection of the suns rays against spider webs or other objects in the woods.

Witness Background

Currently a graduate student.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

The main body was like an upside down saucer with a cylindrical 'turret' on the top. The 'turret' was approximately 3 feet across and 2 to 3 feet high and appeared to rotate. It had windows perhaps of a green color that may have been 8 sided. The main body was approximately 12 to 15 feet across and approximately 4 feet thick and was supported by legs...I think 3, which held the craft 4 feet off the ground. There was a ladder that reached the ground from the center underside. The craft was skin was metallic. the windows gave off some light.

Size of Object(s)

The measurements I gave were based upon a city neighborhood street. The craft could fit in the center of the street with a car parked on either side.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

I was 50 to 60 feet away at most.

Description of Area / Surroundings

This was an neighborhood in our city. Nearby there is a small airport for light planes etc. There is an elementary school nearby . The streets are lined with houses on either side... from curb to opposite curb perhaps 30 feet. The houses are single family ranch style homes built in the early 1950's. We had the normal compliment of telephone poles. Each house generally had a 10 foot easement between them.

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This sighting took place approximately 40 years ago. I saw this as a child but did not start to remember it until my late 30's to early 40's. My memory has me standing in the middle of my street in the winter time. It must have been in the early morning hours.... there was no one around and very quiet. It had just snowed and the reflection of the street lights on the snow made it very bright. I was directly in front of my house. I had no recollection of going outside. There in front of me perhaps 50 or 60 feet was this saucer shaped craft. It had an upper turret that rotated slowly ... that part had some windows that might have been eight sided. The shape of the craft was similar to a lid on a teapot ...the top being small and cylindrical. It was supported by legs ...I think 3. It had a ladder from the center underside down to the ground. A distance of approximately 4 feet to the ground. The totat size of the craft was 12 to 15 feet across and maybe 6 or 7 feet high. It made little or no sound.

The amazing thing about this memory is that I absolutely KNOW that it happened because my brother saw it too. About 4 years ago my older brother and I were hiking ( winter time) at a local area overlooking town. We stopped and talked for a while about life etc. I decided to tell him of my 'memory' of the UFO. I was fully expecting him to laugh and question my sanity. As I was relating to him about the craft he interrupted me and said "I saw it too"....he went on to describe the way it looked with details of the windows and the size and shape and the ladder down from the center, just as I remembered it.!! He and I had never discussed this as kids. I did not start remembering until several years ago. My brother explained that no one would believe him... so he quit talking about it. In fact he bought a telescope to see when they would come back! I have asked my mother and she does not remember us reporting anything.

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Further information from the witness (received on 4-2-06):

I have more to add. The 'turret' or top of space craft perhaps did not rotate but rather the lights inside cycled one window to the next following the perimeter of the 'turret' giving the effect of rotation. I just talked with my brother....' he was in the house looking out his bedroom window( my room was next to his). He watched the craft for maybe 'two minutes'. He did not see me and does not remember anything else.' What is really strange to me is how I can't remember 90% or more of my early childhood. Prior to seventh grade, things are a bit cloudy. This is well known with my mother and brothers. Some things stand out in my memories but I have large gaps of time missing.

I hope this helps. I am frustrated, to say the least, that there are so many skeptics out there. And of course the government denials I find insulting. Perhaps someday the truth will come out.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

No

Witness Background

I am an aircraft mechanic. I have some college and trade school.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

Before the sighting I was probably ignorant of any of it. After the sighting and in my early adult years I always felt like they were real and that we on earth are not alone. Upon remembering the sighting ( in my mid 40's) I absolutely believe that there are other life forms and we have been visited for a very long time. I was probably not exposed to much information on UFO's prior to the sighting as I was fairly young.

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I have often wondered if I was abducted at this time of sighting . My recollection was of standing in the middle of the street , at night, in the winter. The angle that I would have had to see the object from my bedroom was not the angle that my memory sees it from. I was thrilled and relieved when my brother shared with me that he saw the same event.

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Appearance / Description of Object(s)

This was an organized fleet of bright orange rectangular objects with rounded corners without an identifiable light source. Each object had a small flame at the back, small relative to the size of the object itself. The flame was bluish . They appeared flat to me as I could not see any of their sides, since they were overhead.. It was quiet. no noise were heard from them. The neighborhood was pretty quiet as well.

Size of Object(s)

I'd have to put my streched arms apart almost 2 feet to cover the fleet in its length, about 1 foot to cover the width.

Distance to Object(s) & Altitude

the fleet was overhead, about 5-10 degrees south from the zenith. (almost overhead)

Description of Area / Surroundings

This was an urban area, 5 story buildings on the west side of a major intersection and houses on the east side. I was located where the 5 story building were. The landscape goes uphill from the east to the west, altitude is about 1800 feet.

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I've emailed a draft of what I have seen 36 years ago - January 1970- in the elevated areas of Algiers were I then lived and have been ever since pondering about this extraordinary technology. The illustration that I have provided is pretty accurate in terms of colors and may be close to correct in the number of crafts in the fleet. The fleet was about 1500-2500 feet overhead (may be less) so each would size to a football field.

I was playing soccer with my brother and practicing head passes, next thing I see are these large bright objects in the sky moving together. They flew as a matrix-like unit with the back row crafts moving AT RIGHT ANGLES to come to the front of the fleet (see picture). Each craft in the back row would exit the back row to the left or to the right depending on which edge of the fleet it was closest. Their maneuvers were done at very very high speed! seemed like a cartoon. ..and when they were all reset to lead in the front row, the newly exposed last row would repeat the process. And it went on and on.The acceleration was absolutely amazing, especially when going at right angle to suddenly get in front of the fleet to rest their speed at the constant speed of the fleet. A very very quiet fleet.(No noise at all) I was lucky to be able to observe them as they flew from the west to the east.

Other things that were extraordinary was the small blue flame they had at the back of each craft, as if it was generated from propane, the flame was blue and had a shape that was as perfect as the pilot flame you see on your gas stove. The luminous orange color of the crafts did not have an identifiable source. No other lights were present. They also looked flat, but they were overhead and not close enough to see any side of them.

These objects were rectangular with rounded corners, moved at a good speed. It took about 2 minutes from the time I saw them (overhead) to when they disappeared behind the eastern horizon obastacles (buildings, trees, hills), long enough time for many people to observe them(and many have actually ) This includes the observatory of Algiers that announced it in the national newspaper the day after - they too observed it , and they are located 2 miles east of where I was, on top of the hill .

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

Absolutely not! and I am a structural engineer. The right angle navigation while undergoing stunning acceleration w

Witness Background

I graduated from UCLA with an engineering degree. For the past 10 years, I have been working in the Information Technology field doing various development work for a number of companies.

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I never was skeptical and always had an open mind, believe in the impossible, so to speak. I was 16 when I saw these - had not been around long in life, but since pre-school I was interested an curious about the unknown. I did belive in the existence of othe worlds before this event. I had an interest in the world wonders that were left as mysterious, Mayan calendar, Pyramids, advanced ancient civilizations etc... Today, I do not question the existence of UFOs or extraterrestrial advanced civilizations. I question their technology but most of all, the purpose of their visitation is questionnable. Why do they hide from us.

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Thank you or having this site. It is well presented.

I did not report the event because members of the observsatory of Algiers observed the event as it was reported in the newspaper the day after.

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The object looked very much like a large trunk , or the obelisk in "Space Odyssy 2000" Rectangular -length twice its width and thickness 1/2 its width. Orange glowing lines about its middle and all visible edges.

Size of Object(s)

At arm's length 3/8th in. between thumb and finger. Or- the diameter of the moon. This would mean at least 1500 ft to 3500 ft in length. Plus++

Description of Area / Surroundings

Central Oregon Elevation 4000, along Big Lake Road, South of the road junction and Santiam Pass, Hwy 22 to Bend, Oregon. Right Big Lake Campground and lake. Mt. Washington Elevation 7,100 ft to the SE. 3 miles.

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As I was standing in the middle of the road looking at the pre-dawn sky of brilliant stars and Polaris, I noticed what seemed like a fireball low in the trees north along the road. There were huge flames all about the object and suddenly it veered to my right and rapidly gained altitude to about 22 Degrees above the horizon. (Polaris is about 45 Degrees altitude) The flames went out and I was looking at this object broadside. It was clearly delineated twice as high as its width. I could see its thickness (about 1/2 its width) as well as the top was angled about 15 degrees to the right. An extremely bright ablation tail formed from each of the four visible edges and formed smooth curves top and bottom (like a scimitar blade) joining some distance back. This tail became so bright the sky turned briefly to blue then faded to black once again with the brilliant stars in the background. I could see brown smoke trailing in the bright yellow -orange light . The object was clearly visible by an orange glowing rectangular seam at its middle and at all of its edges. There were a few orange sparks from the top and leading edges. 3 to 4 four seconds later and perhaps at a bearing 45 Deg. NE. Altitude still at about 22 Deg. It disappeared into the night sky except for a faint wisp of trailing smoke.

The road was lined with alpine firs and tent camp sites were to my right . The camp site of my friends and my self was to my right about 40 ft . The lake shore about 100 ft. The four of us were heading out on a roped accent of the Mt. Washington spire early this morning at sunrise. My friends were asleep and did not witness any of this and I did not say anything to them as I did not want to "spook" our day and some tricky climbing later on.

Further information submitted on 3/13/2006:

This is not the usual UFO case as you can see. But, there are very puzzling aspects regarding this sighting. First is I have difficulty justifying my ability to see an object possible as distant as the space station for example. If I assume 3/8th at 24in (arm length) and taking the sighting angle of 22 +,- Deg vertical angle the size of this object boggles the mind. A minimum a 2500 feet in length and more likely more than a mile in length. OR, the object dipped to perhaps just ten miles altitude above ground. Why didn't it burn up? The shape was maintained thru out its visibility. I estimate it to be traveling at near the escape velocity of earh, or 25,000 mph. It appears to be free falling and deflected to my right after approaching at a very low angle to the earth. Then perhaps headed either into earth orbit, or back into space. With only one witness, determining which would be additional conjecture.

I hope this will describe in a clearer fashion what it was I observed.

Can sighting be explained as any conventional man-made or natural object?

The size determination is critical to ascertain if manmade or not. AT first I thought perhaps this was a spent rocket casing or of that nature. But, it's shape cleary ruled this out . I know of no technology that could have constructed something is possibly a mile in length and half a mile wide and probably an 1/8th of a mile thick. Or this could have been much closer to earth - maybe 20 miles high but the angle altitude was about 22 Deg

Witness Background

I have a civil engineering and land surveying background. I attended the University of Oregon for three years with a major in liberal arts. Ended up with a technical degree in a two year engineering program and worked with my father in his engineering business. My hobby is weather and I keep continuos records. Belong to the local American Meteorological Society

Views on UFOs, before and after sighting

I have read a lot over the years regarding UFO's including J. Allen Hyneck's Close Encounters of The Third Kind. and others I am curious but somewhat skeptical. The best witnesses have always been very creditable and responsible types.

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