Summary: The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview with Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy, conducted by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO Magazine.
The following extracts were transcribed from a filmed interview
with Valery Uvarov, of Russia's National Security Academy,
conducted by Graham W. Birdsall, Editor of the UK-based UFO
Magazine. The interview took place at the 12th International UFO
Congress Convention and Film Festival, held February 2-8, 2003,
in Laughlin, Nevada, USA.
Graham Birdsall (GB): What is your official title?
Valery Uvarov (VU): I am head of the Department of UFO Research,
Science and Technical, National Security Academy, based in St
GB: This, then, is an official Russian government agency?
VU: Absolutely. I am answerable to two people above me. They are
answerable to the next person above them, who is our President
GB: What exactly is your remit?
VU: Our research efforts are divided into two parts. Firstly, we
are constantly analysing data coming in from all over the world.
We then extract what we consider to be the most interesting
information through our database-which is yellow, which is red.
This, then, is released to various departments throughout
Russia. The other aspect of our research stemmed from asking the
question: do UFOs exist or not? For sure, we know they exist,
but what is behind their activity, their interest? This is the
most important issue for us, and what we mostly focus our
GB: There is active co-operation between NASA and Russian
aerospace officials at a technical, scientific and maybe even
military level. Do you liaise or have ties with organisations
similar to your own overseas?
VU: I can tell you, truthfully, that just a couple of days
before I flew to the United States I had a meeting with my ...
let's say, my bosses. And they said they are very interested in
co-operating with other organisations ... let's say, our friends
in the West. So, I can tell you that this particular mission is
at the starting point. I am charged with finding the right
people. When this is done, and the next stage is activated, we
can make some concrete steps.
GB: Earlier, off camera, you alluded to some important
developments concerning the Tunguska explosion of 1908. For the
record, can you tell us why you now believe you know the cause?
VU: It is not so much a case of belief; we know what caused it.
It was a meteor, but a meteor that was destroyed by ... let's
say, a missile. The missile was generated by a material
installation. We don't know who constructed it, but it was built
long, long ago and is situated in Siberia, several hundred
kilometres north of Tunguska. I can tell you that our
investigation has revealed more than one explosion at Tunguska.
Let me share something with you. The last time that this
installation shot down a meteor was on 24/25 September last
year. The Americans ... they have three bases ... they, too,
noticed this explosion. [Editor's Ref: See New Scientist vol 178
issue 2399 - 14 June 2003]
GB: Forgive me, but some will say this sounds like science
VU: Graham, you know that when we talk about the truths that lie
behind this subject, we only do so with those who have an
understanding of the responsibility that goes with it. And you
know that we are dealing with a technology much further ahead of
our own-one capable of doing things that we cannot.
GB: Can you be more specific about the location of this
VU: Look for the site of the Tunguska explosion. To the
southeast is the very large and famous Lake Baikal. Beyond that,
to the north, is a huge and barren territory covering 100,000
kilometres. Hardly anyone lives there. There are no towns or
cities. Here is where we located the installation ...
GB: Are you aware of strange stories or rumours concerning the
so-called "Planet X"? If some new and heavenly body had entered
our solar system, astronomers would surely detect it and declare
VU: I cannot speak for astronomers in the West, but astronomers
within our Academy tell us we have nothing to fear. I have heard
people talk about a rotation figure of 3,600 years for this
planet, which is in a similar orbit to that of the Earth but
behind the Sun. We know that this planet and the installation in
Siberia are closely connected. Let me say that we believe that
this installation is keeping that planet in a stable orbit. If
that planet were to move, to shift orbit, the entire solar
system would become unstable. Those of us in the Academy are
sure that this planet is inhabited, and that this installation
is designed to protect them and us. We are sure that nothing
dangerous will happen. Everything is under control.
Our investigations have shown that the Earth has a pulse-a
finely tuned frequency that affects everything, every living
thing. Some 12,500 years ago, this pulse corresponded to 360
days of the year-study the old Egyptian calendar-but then an
asteroid struck the Earth. We believe the orbit of the Earth was
altered, artificially, to compensate for this. Our planet moved
further away from the Sun, to a frequency pulse of 365.
This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends who
watch over us, silently. They did not allow then, nor will they
allow now, any planet, comet or asteroid to strike and destroy
the Earth. This, for us, is now absolutely clear.
Those who wish to weaponise space ... to tell you the truth, all
of us involved in this project feel a pain in our hearts. Here
we all are, investigating this installation and some other
stuff, material stuff, none of which was constructed by Russians
or Americans but by someone else, someone from outer space. It
saddens us when we think what could happen if weapons are put
Let me speak frankly. This installation has a power system, an
energy source. We have located this. It was during the conflict
in the former Yugoslavia that we first noticed an increase in
the output of that energy. For us, it was incredible, but we now
know that this installation reacts to social upheaval and
conflict. Part of our investigation involved searching through
ancient records and archives, and then we came across the
Echutin Apposs Alanhor [sic] texts. We call them the Alanhor,
and they are at least 4,000 years old. They describe the
installation, in scientific terms, as to what was taking place
there. It's amazing.
I have visited the area twice. The first time our equipment
detected strong levels of radiation. I have to tell you, it was
pretty dangerous; we couldn't hide from it. The few local
inhabitants of the area knew of the installation, of course, and
they described it to us. They describe metal-like structures and
drew them for us. We plotted everything on a map. But these
people, their families, the animals, they were suffering from
The radiation levels have been continuously monitored for the
past six years, and now everyone-including the animals-has left
the forest. Let me tell you something about the Tunguska
explosion-something that has never been spoken of before. Two
months before the explosion, every living animal fled the
region. It was as if the installation had powered up to deal
with the asteroid. With that came an increase in radiation. The
same thing is happening now, today.
GB: Are there any plans to mount another expedition to the area
and to visit the installation?
VU: The radiation is a factor but, yes, another expedition is
planned for later this year. Look, we want to be open and honest
about this. We welcome international participation, but the
people we invite must be responsible in the eyes of the world.
We want people who are honest, open-minded and transparent, who
are eager and willing to co-operate and exchange and then
disseminate the scientific data. I invite you, Graham, to come
to Russia and visit the installation as an observer.
GB: I would be honoured. Thank you.
VU: You can tell people that we, Russia, have decided that it is
time that other people should know about this, and not just a