Summary: Transcript of SCI FI channel interview with Stan Gordon and Leslie Kean, researchers of the Kecksburg UFO incident.
ChatMod: Hi everybody, thanks for joining us. I'm Ben Trumble for SCIFI. Tonight we're pleased to welcome Stan Gordon and Leslie Kean both profiled in our new special SCI FI Declassified. Our guests are authorities on the Kecksburg Incident.
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ChatMod: Tell us about Kecksburg. What happened there?
StanLeslie: On Dec 9th 1965 multiple witnesses saw a flaming object in the sky
StanLeslie: It moved over Westmorland County then turned south over Laurelville, then went northeast to Kecksburg and came down in a controlled manner
StanLeslie: In a relatively short time the military moved in and closed the area down
StanLeslie: Reports from Pittsburgh were not allowed into the woods
StanLeslie: Other individuals say NASA was there
StanLeslie: The official word was there was a search, a meteor, and nothing was found
StanLeslie: But people in the community say a military truck hauled something away
StanLeslie: And some people in the woods saw a large disk like object in the woods
StanLeslie: Now we know the object went to Wright-Patterson
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StanLeslie: We think they were tracking them on radar
StanLeslie: And Projecy Moondust, the quick response teams ready to grab Soviet space hardware may have been alerted prior to the crash
StanLeslie: That doesn't mean they were all Moondust
StanLeslie: Moondust may have notified other agencies
StanLeslie: Large. metallic, acorn shaped
StanLeslie: An off-gold color
StanLeslie: No signs of hatches, rivets, etc
StanLeslie: The diameter was 8-10ft
StanLeslie: The bumper area had raised up marking that looked like pictographs
StanLeslie: Lexlie -- Nobody saved a piece
StanLeslie: But on the show tonight SCI FI has a professor explaining the obvious tree damage and such that does prove something large crashed there. It's in the trees.
StanLeslie: In terms of physical evidence, John Murphy a reporter took photograhs but his film was taken from as he left the scene
StanLeslie: And those photographs are part of what we would like to obtain from the government
StanLeslie: Stan: If I've never talked to you can you contact me. My # is 724 838 7768
StanLeslie: Leslie: We announced on Tuesday that we are on the verge of taking NASA to court
StanLeslie: We won an appeal on them and they haven't been forthcoming
StanLeslie: The very next day they told us they are sending documents
StanLeslie: We have no idea if they are the documents we want
StanLeslie: Check the website next week
StanLeslie: Our request letter is on the website.
StanLeslie: The only agency that has ever released documents is the Air Force in conjunction with Blue Book. The Air Force floated the meteor theory
ChatMod: How does Kecksburg differ from Roswell in terms of official response?
StanLeslie: Leslie: There are a few official Roswell documents, but generally the government hasn't released anything honest on either
StanLeslie: But Kecksburg is "clean" in terms of fewer dishonest witnesses
StanLeslie: Stan: Few of the Kecksburg witnesses have ever talked with anyone
StanLeslie: That's why I've been so lucky to interview them
StanLeslie: Credible witnesses
StanLeslie: School teachers, cops
StanLeslie: And there are so many littl;e details that they all seem to share
StanLeslie: The credibility gap in Kecksburg is narrow
StanLeslie: The majority of witnesses don't even know each other.
StanLeslie: Stan: They don't deny an "event"
StanLeslie: It was all over the papers
StanLeslie: Even the military search
StanLeslie: Leslie: So how can it be that the military denies it now
StanLeslie: But our business isn't to ask why they cover up, it's to demand the evidence
StanLeslie: Obviously it was something very sensitive.
ChatMod: Will your investigation demand access to the actual physical craft if they are forced to admit that an object was found?
StanLeslie: We would certainly make a request if they ever admitted an object was found
StanLeslie: Stan: Or if they said it was something Soviet or American and let us see the craft we'd be please3d to look at it
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StanLeslie: Leslie: You can't think along those lines
StanLeslie: The law says they are obligated to release information
StanLeslie: What's different about this request is we have the money and resources to fight in the courts for the real documents
StanLeslie: That's why we have expectations
StanLeslie: And we've had great media coverage
StanLeslie: Stan: And you can all help us by signing the petition. Showing the level of interest could help the GAO to investigvate
StanLeslie: Stan: That's what the petition is about
StanLeslie: Request one of the PA Reps to request a GAO investigation
StanLeslie: The GAO has access and credibility. They have the power to get access to information that others can't touch
ChatMod: Do you know of other cases similar to Kecksburg?
StanLeslie: Leslie: What's extraordinary about Kecksburg are the number opf witnesses, the object on the ground, etc. It may be the best documented
ChatMod: I know you guys have to leave us
StanLeslie: Stan: As far as crash retrieval cases go, there are many other reports, but generally in isolated places and we have little information
StanLeslie: Stan: If anybody out there has Kecksburg information, do contact us
StanLeslie: We don't need to sue your vame
StanLeslie: We lost Leslie. Good night
ChatMod: We'll open the floor now